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Shaco vs Talon

In the jungle on patch 26.21, Shaco is among Talon's worst matchups in LazyElo players' lobbies: at least 8 games in the matchup, a win rate below 50% after it is pulled toward 50%.

Patch 26.21Jungle460 lane games

Talon wins 45.7% of its 173 jungle games on patch 26.21 (tier C), and Shaco is one of the opponents it does worst against: this is a counter by the site's rule. Shaco itself wins 49.5% of 287 games there (tier B). The games are those of LazyElo players and the players they met, at their own elo, not Emerald and above.

The per-champion pages: Shaco counters and Talon counters.

Shaco jungle games
287
Talon jungle games
173
Min. games per matchup
8
Patch
26.21

Shaco vs Talon at a glance

Each champion's own line per lane, and which side the matchup falls on there by the site's counter rule.

Junglemeasured

Shaco vs Talon in the jungle
ChampionTierWin rateGamesPick rateIn this matchup
ShacoB49.5%2872.6%Beats Talon: Talon has it among its worst matchups
TalonC45.7%1731.6%Loses to Shaco: among its worst matchups here

Tiers and win rates are each champion's own jungle numbers on patch 26.21, from the Jungle tier list. “Loses to” means at least 8 games in the matchup and a win rate below 50% after it is pulled toward 50%.

Support

Shaco vs Talon as a support
ChampionTierWin rateGamesPick rateIn this matchup
ShacoS+71.7%600.5%No counter relation with 8 games
TalonToo few games in this lane for a line of its own.

Tiers and win rates are each champion's own support numbers on patch 26.21, from the Support tier list. “Loses to” means at least 8 games in the matchup and a win rate below 50% after it is pulled toward 50%.

How Shaco plays this matchup

Riot lists Shaco as assassin, on mana, and rates it 8 for attack, 4 for defense, 6 for magic and 9 for difficulty on its own ten-point scale (Data Dragon). Those ratings describe the kit, not the matchup; what the games say is below.

In the jungle on patch 26.21, Shaco is tier B with a 49.5% win rate over 287 games (2.6% of jungle picks). Against Talon it does better than that: Talon has Shaco among the opponents it loses to most, with at least 8 games in the matchup. The lane is on Shaco's side on average; your own record in it decides whether it is on yours.

Shaco's other worst jungle matchups on this patch: Shaco vs Briar, Shaco vs Kayn, Shaco vs Volibear. Whether a matchup is a counter follows from six things, range and sustain first: what decides a counter.

How Talon plays this matchup

Riot lists Talon as assassin, on mana, and rates it 9 for attack, 3 for defense, 1 for magic and 7 for difficulty on its own ten-point scale (Data Dragon). Those ratings describe the kit, not the matchup; what the games say is below.

In the jungle on patch 26.21, Talon is tier C with a 45.7% win rate over 173 games (1.6% of jungle picks). Against Shaco it does worse than that: Shaco is one of the opponents it loses to most, with at least 8 games in the matchup and a win rate below 50% after it is pulled toward 50%. Playing Talon here means playing for the lane you get: give up the early trades its kit does not win, keep the CS and wait for your item spike or your jungler.

Talon's other worst jungle matchups on this patch: Talon vs Nocturne, Talon vs Viego. Whether a matchup is a counter follows from six things, range and sustain first: what decides a counter.

What each side builds

The lane builds of both champions in the jungle: the finished items and rune pages seen most often over all their opponents, not against each other alone. The shared games hold no build per matchup.

Shaco

Most built items

Games · Win rate

The finished items Shaco ends jungle games with most often.

  • Blackfire Torch40.6%51.7%
  • Voltaic Cyclosword38.8%44.1%
  • The Collector36.7%51.4%
  • Liandry's Torment36.4%51.9%
  • Berserker's Greaves33.2%44.2%
  • Infinity Edge27.6%59.5%

Runes

Games · Win rate

The keystone with its secondary tree, most played first.

  • Hail of Blades + Precision47.1%48.8%
  • Arcane Comet + Precision24.9%54.7%
  • Dark Harvest + Sorcery9.7%40.0%

Builds rest on 286 Shaco games in this lane on patch 26.21 whose items were shared; every item and rune page above was in at least 10 of them. Games: the share of those games with it. This is Shaco's jungle build over every opponent, not a build for this matchup.

Talon

Most built items

Games · Win rate

The finished items Talon ends jungle games with most often.

  • Umbral Glaive84.9%47.9%
  • Voltaic Cyclosword76.7%48.5%
  • Bastionbreaker65.1%45.5%
  • Boots of Swiftness56.4%50.5%
  • Edge of Night30.8%52.8%
  • Ionian Boots of Lucidity25.0%34.9%

Runes

Games · Win rate

The keystone with its secondary tree, most played first.

  • Fleet Footwork + Inspiration73.2%45.0%
  • First Strike + Domination10.1%40.0%
  • Electrocute + Inspiration8.1%50.0%

Builds rest on 172 Talon games in this lane on patch 26.21 whose items were shared; every item and rune page above was in at least 10 of them. Games: the share of those games with it. This is Talon's jungle build over every opponent, not a build for this matchup.

Other matchups

Each champion's other measured pairs on this patch, the ones it loses first.

Shaco's other matchups

Shaco counters, every lane.

Talon's other matchups

Talon counters, every lane.

Your record in Shaco vs Talon

  • Your plan, asked first

    Once LazyElo can tell that Shaco or Talon is your lane opponent, a card in champ select asks for your plan against them, and only then shows the notes you wrote earlier.

  • Your record in it

    Games, wins and losses, when you last played the matchup and your average KDA in it, plus your CS and gold difference at 10 minutes from the games with a timeline.

  • How others did

    How other players in your stored games did in the same matchup, with the number of games.

Matchups is part of Plus; the free plan shows the best 3 picks from your pool. The feature: your own notes for this matchup.

Questions and answers

Does Shaco counter Talon?

Yes, in the jungle on patch 26.21: Talon is among the opponents it loses to most, with at least 8 games in the matchup and a win rate below 50% after it is pulled toward 50%, in the games of LazyElo players at their own elo. Up to three such opponents are listed per champion and lane; Shaco is one of Talon's.

Does Talon counter Shaco?

Not in our data on patch 26.21: Shaco does not have Talon among its worst three matchups in any lane with at least 8 games. That can mean the matchup is close, or that it has too few games here yet; the page says which numbers it rests on.

How many games are behind Shaco vs Talon?

5,561 ranked games on patch 26.21 in total; in the jungle Shaco has 287 of them and Talon 173. A matchup is only called a counter from 8 games between the two, and the data keeps the lists, not the count per pair.

Where is the win rate of Shaco vs Talon?

Not on this page, on purpose. The shared data behind the site holds each champion's own tier, win rate and games per lane and the list of opponents it does worst against, not the win rate of every pair. Showing a number the data does not hold would be a guess, so the page shows which side the matchup falls on and both champions' own lane numbers instead.

Play Shaco vs Talon with a plan you wrote yourself

In champ select LazyElo weighs this matchup against your own record on each champion in your pool and says why it suggests a pick. Once it knows your lane opponent it asks for your plan, then shows your notes and your record. You still pick and lock yourself.

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